I would assume that they have better characteristics than the lunchbox lockers, and are priced between lunchbox lockers and arbox lockers. Because of its aggressive locking action the spartan is not recommended for vehicles that see regular daily driver usage. I have a 5 speed so would that help make it livable. If you count yourself as such a driver, then a lunchbox locker could be one of the best parts youll ever purchase for your jeep. Clod hopper suggested this in a post from back in 07, but someone else said it didnt really help. Headtohead lunchboxes drop in locker shootout jp magazine. The gears are aftermarket and it looks like it has a lunchbox locker lock rite, or similar style in the carrier.
Daily driver lockers i live in the midwest and we do get quite a bit of snow. Even if it is a daily driver and you wheel it some, i would be leaning hard towards the locker. Anyone here have any personal experience with a lunchbox locker in the front on their daily driver ive really been interested in them as they are very inexpensive but im unsure how the driveability is. The only problem im having is that the only one i can find for the 8. As far as the different brands, they all work pretty much exactly the same so id go with whatever is on. I wouldnt lunchbox the front on a daily, you want a selectable one. With manual front hubs, an aussie locker up front will be undetectable in 2wheeldrive, because the front. Specifically designed for offhighway enthusiasts and wheelers the aussie locker has been proven world wide from the outback of australia to moab, utah. I have a lunchbox locker made by lokka in my jeep cherokeexj, which is unit bearing, and it drives like an open diff until put in 4wd. An aussie would be a good choice for the front axle. After a little research i decided to put a spartan lunchbox locker in the front dana 30 of my 06 tj. Front locker, daily driver, does locking only one hub help. Aug 21, 2010 legally no you dont have much payload, thats the nature of the 2500 trucks.
As you can see, the teeth began to gall on only one of the drivers. Im running 31s currently and have a sidekick transfer case that i will be mating to my samurai case with 4. The spartan locker, by usa standard gear, provides reliable traction at a low cost. The ultimate overland jeep cherokee xj build walkaround of features. Legally no you dont have much payload, thats the nature of the 2500 trucks. The spartan locker by usa standard gear is a mechanical locker that replaces the spiders in a standard case.
But now im really wondering now after hearing his storytelling. In toyota land cruisers with full time 4wd we do not recommend the installation of the aussie locker in the front. Im also liking the thought of a self contained unit. The combination of these two sets of opposing forces and the unique aussie locker design allow the automatic locking and unlocking of the driving gears when. Capability wise, you can pull just about any trailer you want so long as you make sure your tires, and suspension can handle the task safely.
Would there be a reason for going to a unit that needs to have the gears removed etc. How it works locking differential aussie locker by torq masters. Lunchbox locker install instructions mans version key words. Spartan locker for dana 30 differential with 27 spline axles, includes heavyduty cross pin shaft the spartan locker, by usa standard gear, provides reliable traction at a low cost. It was a daily driver and there was no evidence it was there running around town in two wheel drive.
I would imagine the torque of a diesel would only speed that up. Would aussie lockers front and rear be a bad idea if driven daily. Lunchbox lockers arent normally locked, they engage based on input torque vs the g80 that locks based on rpm difference between sides. Leaving or installing a lunchbox up front is not really all that bad as with lockable hubs the locker doesnt come into play on the street. I was hoping someone offered a 35 spline locker so i could use the dana 60 shafts i have, but i was told no one makes one. The issues with lunchbox lockers are great enough that i want to at least take my rear one out and replace it with an electric selectable. I wasnt sure if this was the right differential for my 88 yj for mild offroading being my daily driver. There are several install videos on youtube, so with about 20 minutes of study i was all set. Offroad, for me at least, i think the frontonly locker was a better upgrade than the rearonly locker in my truck. While a lunchbox can work out for most offroaders, some may find it to be an inconvenience for use in any truck thats also a daily driver. Oct 01, 2009 these lunchbox lockers are a fraction of that price, and if you decide you dont like the quirks of an automatic locker, you can put your spider gears back in and go back to an open differential. Im looking at putting a lunchbox locker in the front d30 on my jeep and cant decide on which one to go with.
Theyre only good for a dedicated rock crawler they drive on the street sometimes. Oct 31, 2019 ive also run a lunchbox locker in the front axle of an xj, no rear locker. Mar 19, 2020 you are correct in saying that a selectable locker is a really good option for your daily driver. In the wheelin world they work ok, but they usually dont last all that long in a daily driver before the pins break. The spartan lockers design does not use the thrust washers and has a revolutionary spring and pin design that makes installation a snap. In all my years ive never found myself in a situation where i needed a locker to engage over 20mph. The lunchbox locker is designed to split power evenly between. Not to mention a dana 35 is in no way strong enough for any kind of a locker. So its getting to the point where i want to get lockers for my samurai. Here are the quick reference numbers you need to check to save yourself time and. Would aussie lockers front and rear be a bad idea if driven. But with the dual cases i am planning to run i know that axle shaft breakage is inevitable and i. The ultimate overland jeep cherokee xj build walkaround of features duration. Lockers are awesome off the pavement, but they do introduce handling quirks on the street.
My lunchbox equipped rig was only going sideways and on steeper hills, because power was provided 100% to both wheels, i nearly stopped and started sliding downhill if momentum wasnt there. In my opinion lunchbox lockers are one of the best bang for the buck modifications you. Pardon the crap image, but it was from 12 years ago. After researching your good thoughts and reading many locker related threads on other wrangler firums. The lunchbox locker is designed to split power evenly between both wheels regardless of which wheel has traction. I searched and figured with the bazillion locker questions that get asked id find an answer, but didnt find anything definitive. Spartan locker for dana 30 differential with 27 spline axles, includes heavyduty cross pin shaft. Do some googling or call a few companies to find what you want. The aussie locker xd20830 is the most advanced traction added automatic precision locker in the world today. Black bettys been running a limited slip one of the better ones for a couple of years now in my d44 rear. Yep a lunchbox locker is a much better option for your front axle. Driving a jeep xj with a front locker in the snow youtube. One, my old chevy fullsize 2wd prerunner that i sold to a friend. A step above other lunchbox style lockers, the spartan uses a unique large.
But id have to accept the quirks it would visit upon daily driving, and im not up for it a second time around. This was a replacement for a corporate 20 that had a bent axle tube when i first got er. The massive guide covers wranglers from the 1980s yj to the latemodel jk. Ie i driving with one in 2wd on snowiceor rain is pretty precarious and probably more dangerous than an. My budget is tight, but i just cant convince myself to go back to a lunchbox in the rear of my daily driver.
Daily driving a auto locker especially with a manual transmission is a complete pain in the neck. It was then that i found reference to something new called a torq locker for d30s including one for jeep jks with a hp d30. I am going for a daily driver thats as capable as a stock rubicon. Jan 10, 2014 page 1 of 2 detroit locker in a daily driver. Front lunchbox locker experiences jeep cherokee talk. Wanting to put a lunch box locker in 2wd tundra ih8mud. The g80 is the best automatic locker for a daily driver because its easy to live with and gets the job done.
May 19, 2017 the name lunchbox comes from the idea that you pack different lunches in the same reusable box. The aussie locker is available for dana 30, dana 35, and dana 44 axles. The aussie locker does not require any manual intervention to operate such as cables, switches, or air compressors. Ive been looking for a while at putting in a lunchbox locker. Locking differential aussie locker by torq masters.
In this case, the stock carrier is the box, and the locker is the lunch. Wanting to put a lunch box locker in 2wd tundra ih8mud forum. Lockers can handle tons of horsepower into the 1,000plus range, but most lsds are maxed out by the time you hit 600 hp. Never really understood why the trd prerunners still came with lockers, and not a limited slip, but oh well. I have a lockright in the rear and ive been really happy with. The nickname lunchbox comes from the idea of packing your lunch in a reusable lunchbox where you use the same lunchbox and. The information provided is helpful for beginners and advanced alike. Automatic lunchbox lockers place is offroad, not in the rear diff of a daily driver. To help weed through the many reasons and ways to lift a jeep, extremeterrain has spent the time to put together a huge resource to help guide you through it, extremeterrains definitive jeep lift kit guide.
If you are doing more off road stuff its hard to beat a detroit. The aussie locker is an automatic differential locker. Im not opposed to getting that one, but its the most expensive one on the market. The name lunchbox comes from the idea that you pack different lunches in the same reusable box. Would aussie lockers front and rear be a bad idea if. So far ive taken care of all the maintenance items and added 32 mtr kevlars.
Daily driving a autolocker especially with a manual transmission is a complete pain in the neck. With a amc 20 rear end would a lunch box locker do for a daily driver. Lunchbox locker for d30 looking at purchasing a front locker for my 99 with a d30. I would like to get arbs as i still drive the truck on the road in the summer and sometimes in the winter. Its a lunchbox locker so not quite as strong as a detroit would be, but on the other hand you can install it yourself in a couple of hours. Locker and spool systems are ideally suited for racing and special applications, and in most cases, they can be unnecessary or dangerous for the street. The 2500 trucks are identical to 3500 as far as axles, engine, and powertrain i. I would also like to put somthing in my dana 30 but like to use 4wd in the snow so a locker may be out of the question. Those are more useful than a locker in a 2wd truck. If your expy is also your daily driver, another option you might consider for your rear locker is a powertrax noslip.
Many are designed to slip or ratchet until power is applied via the front driveshaft. They like to bust their axle shafts when either a locker andor 33 tires or larger are installed onto it. Throw a lunchbox locker in the rear, and call it a day. Im one of the people who doesnt mind an auto locker on the street at all, specially one thats reasonably predictable. These lunchbox lockers are a fraction of that price, and if you decide you dont like the quirks of an automatic locker, you can put your spider gears back in and go back to an open differential. I have a lockright in the rear and ive been really happy with it. For the price of a used e locker third member i could get aussie lockers front and rear.
Lunchbox locker a lunchbox locker or dropin locker is a locker mechanism that is designed to fit into the stock differential carrier replacing the spider gear set and sometimes the side gears and pinionshaft. Worked good with no problems and was removed from my daily driver. Aug 16, 2019 yep a lunchbox locker is a much better option for your front axle. I was looking at a cheaper lunchbox locker for my rear, the spartan locker in particular. It would see snow and mud when hunting and ice fishing. I would never install a detroit or lunchbox locker in a daily driver. If i was to go to an automatic locker, it would be the detroit soft locker, not the limited slip. Fourwheeldrive offroad trucks are specialapplication vehicles and. Lots of people swear by the true track for a tow rig. I live in the south, see very little snow, and this is not my daily driver, however i would still prefer the one with the best street manners and the least noise, but not if its at the cost of performance, function, and strength. The nickname lunchbox comes from the idea of packing your lunch in a reusable lunchbox where you use the same lunchbox and pack in a different lunch. You are correct in saying that a selectable locker is a really good option for your daily driver. Im looking into adding a lunchbox locker into my dana 50 when i regear.
With manual front hubs, an aussie locker up front will be undetectable in 2wheeldrive, because the front differential wont be moving with the hubs unlocked. Dana 30 spartan locker 27 spline brand new dana 30 yukon spartan locker 27 spline. I would prefer the predictability of the spool over the lunchbox but i have an aussie in my yota upfront. Dec 30, 2017 lunchbox locker install dana 44 30 jeep ford chevy duration. Lockright, spartan aussie, lunch box locker install instructions, center gap rotation check, popping this is the mans version of installing a lunchbox locker great for shops and skilled diyrs. Spends a lot of time being beat on in the desert, and was my daily driver for years. Spartan locker the spartan locker from usa standard gear is a mechanical locking unit that installs directly into a standard carrier, replacing spider side gears in the differential. Lunchbox locker install dana 44 30 jeep ford chevy duration. Ive also run a lunchbox locker in the front axle of an xj, no rear locker. These units provide affordable traction and easy installation, making them an excellent option as a starter locker when modifying your trail rig. I thought it would be helpful to have a separate thread for others also looking to add lockers to.
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